April 30th 10 yr Anniversary of Puppy Episode -- Laura Dern

[ellenfannn]

So officially April 30th will be the 10year Anniversary of Ellen's coming out. Is anyone planning on doing anything to celebrate this??

I wonder if Ellen will acknowledge it on her show it all.. I'm guessing not. But 10 years, that is kind of a big deal.

[greatness]

WOW ten years already. She has change so many people's live's. I am glad she is on this earth. With out her who know's where people would be. Thank You Ellen DeGeneres for all you do.

[Ronja]

wow!!!! 8O 8O 8O time is really running.

[caaaaa]

i bet there will be a little celebration on here.

:bigups:

[jupiterpro]

Lets plan something.

[caaaaa]

how about a thread entitled "GOOD FOR YOU! YOU'RE GAY!" and we could try to have as many members as possible post with congrats, support, and comments on how inspirational ellen is?

[Mellen]

Thats a great idea you have my full support :)

[ellenfannn]

I think it would be awesome if The Advocate would do a piece on it. I'm sure GLAAD or some other organization might recognize it since it was such a huge event... anyways if anyone gets any info on anything relating to the anniversary post it here, okay?

[divine12]

I hope Ellen says something like on the show or something like how things have changed, how other things stayed the same, etc.

[xblondexpinkx]

we have to do something, we cant let this pass by. I think as many people as possible should email her and put the subject good for you youre gay (10 years) or something like that -we should all put the smae subject to get noticed) then put in a little story about how she has changed your life or the life of someone you know or even saved your life. you know just to let her know that 10yrs on shes still making a difference.

[caaaaa]

we have to do something, we cant let this pass by. I think as many people as possible should email her and put the subject good for you youre gay (10 years) or something like that -we should all put the smae subject to get noticed) then put in a little story about how she has changed your life or the life of someone you know or even saved your life. you know just to let her know that 10yrs on shes still making a difference.

thats a great idea too!

[Kristen101]

we have to do something, we cant let this pass by. I think as many people as possible should email her and put the subject good for you youre gay (10 years) or something like that -we should all put the smae subject to get noticed) then put in a little story about how she has changed your life or the life of someone you know or even saved your life. you know just to let her know that 10yrs on shes still making a difference.

that's a really, really good idea. im definitely gunna do that. :)

[caaaaa]

hey, who knows, she might read one of ours on the show! (if she adresses it on tv)

[xblondexpinkx]

welll if we all put the same subject theres a good chance esp cause shell realise how much it means to people thats she is now open about her sexuality.

[politico]

I am in. It's a great idea.

[debby]

I am in. It's a great idea.

i second that!

so what title should we use?

just some ideas:

GOOD FOR YOU YOUR GAY! 10 YAERS ANNIVERSARY!

10 YEARS OUT AND PROUD!

10 YEARS AFTER THE PUPPIE EPISODE! STILL THANK YOU!

THE WORLD IS BETTER NOW WITH YOU IN IT! 10 YAERS AFTER!

KAAAAAAA 10 YAERS AND STILL OUT AND PROUD!

10 YEARS AFTER "YEP I´M GAY"! KEEP ON KEEPIN ON!

GOOD FOR YOU YOUR GAY, AM I RIGHT LADIES?

10 YAERS AFTER THE PUPPIE EPISODE AND STILL OUT AND PROUD!

[caaaaa]

it shouldnt be too long of a title cuz when someone sees it in the inbox, in the list of all the msgs, they will only see like the first 4 or 5 words.

im a big supporter of calling it something with "GOOD FOR YOU! YOU'RE GAY!" in the title. probably something like GOOD FOR YOU! YOU'RE GAY! 10 YRS

[jupiterpro]

"GOOD FOR YOU! YOU'RE GAY!" that would be just a great attention seeking title.

[xblondexpinkx]

gotta agree with caaaa i m a fan of 'good for you you're gay!! 10 years'

[Mushanga]

are a lot of you "out" because ellen came out 10 years ago? did she make it easier for you? and yes, in what way? did you show the episode to your parents for instance?

btw. i saw the tyra show today and there was this mother and two daughters who were very very very against homosexuals. they are very religious. they made me so angry. they say i will go to hell. so what? i don't believe in a heaven or a hell. i believe that i will come back after i'm dead. but they were so aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggghh hhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

[Just_coffee]

That is an AWESOME idea...Imma join in too! ^_^


Peace.
Aimee

[lostioz]

I know theres another post relating to this i cant seem to find it at the moment sorry, just wanted to remind y'all that the april 14th issue of time magazine was when Ellen came out so I think we should all sent her an email with the subject

congratulations, you're gay!-10years.

so that she can see what an influence she has made on peoples on lives.

http://www.sovo.com/2007/4-13/view/editorial/6796.cfm

[xblondexpinkx]

thanks lostioz, I dont know why i couldnt seem to find this thread i think im loosin it. either that or tired.

[pink_devil]

On Monday 23rd of April, Laura Dern will be on TEDS (she played Susan on the Puppy Episode) I think this is her first appearance on the show...hopefully they mention that its the Puppy Episode's 10th Anniversary.

http://www.tvguide.com/detail/tv-show.aspx?tvobjectid=194981&more=ucepisodelist&episodeid=6458243

[xblondexpinkx]

:onfire: oh i really hope she does, its good timing!

[Aeriana_Eve]

anyways if anyone gets any info on anything relating to the anniversary post it here, okay?

Okay!

Ellen DeGeneres - A Decade Agohttp://www.afterellen.com/node/9746?comment=347156

Ellen - 10 Years Out
http://www.glaad.org/media/newspops_detail.php?id=3999

I was watching Ellen on the 14th, since that's the day SHE came out, herself, but she didn't mention anything...and I'm working on the 30th, so I can't watch that show- could somebody please post it if she mentions anything?

[Magnolia]

Daily Variety (April 13, 2007) mentions the anniversary of the Puppy Episode:
10 YRS. WITH AN OUT ELLEN
TV HISTORY: One decade ago this month, Ellen DeGeneres came out on Time's cover and, not to be outdone, her character on the ABC sitcom "Ellen" also declared her lesbianism. Laura Dern shared the historic TV moment on the show's "Puppy Episode," which aired April 30, 1997.

There's a smallish picture of a scene with Ellen and Laura Dern from the "Puppy Episode."

[xblondexpinkx]

can someone please upload mondays show after it airs? I cant wait to see it I hope someone responds because i know its really hard to get teds on the internet now.


Don't miss Ellen's very special announcement today regarding her participation in an upcoming event and, SANJAYA MALAKAR, fresh from being voted off the latest season of "American Idol," tells Ellen how he feels about Simon's constant slams and the surprising support he received from the internet and from Howard Stern. Plus, Emmy winning star of "The New Adventures of Old Christine," JULIA LOUIS-DREYFUS, has a very bizarre talent she shares with Ellen, which has to be seen to be believed. Julia also gives her own "Idol" prediction and shares with Ellen pics of some of the most unusual wildlife from her recent visit to the Galapagos Islands! Don't miss Ellen's special gift to Julia honoring her upcoming twentieth wedding anniversary to Brad Hall. And, it's been 10 years since the ground-breaking "Coming Out Episode" from Ellen's sitcom, and today, her co-star from that episode, actress LAURA DERN, currently co-starring in "Year of the Dog," visits to reminisce over the famous television moment, and to discuss the backlash that occurred after the episode aired, and how things have changed over the last decade. Plus, don't miss when Ellen reveals some of the amazing artistic creations you've sent to her with the latest installment of "Viewer Art." And, what's going on inside Ellen's mind? Here's your first chance to take a look inside your favorite host's head with Ellen's Mind's "Mini Movie Machine!"

[Alexema]

Yeh, i second that. Would be awesome if someone could upload mondays episode, dont think i could hold out till we get it over here! Thanks, Alex x

[Aeriana_Eve]

I third it! I'm working tomorrow, but I can't miss Laura Dern coming back!

[nadaz]

yay 10 years!! yay laura dern on the show, this is gr8. i think its her second time on the show.
nadaz
xxx

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[debby]

someone really needs to upload that episode!

found another small article http://lesbianlife.about.com/

[xblondexpinkx]

what happened on todays show? Were they talking alot about ellens coming out??

[DegeneresDerossi2007]

I'm so happy for Ellen . :) Ellen so in love with Portia and she got fans and one super talk show and I'm so happy for her , Ellen just one amazing women... :) I'm happy to be a fan.... :cool:

I loved today show it was :lol: :lol:

[RoseB]

Today's show was great. Laura spoke about her experience doing Ellen's show 10 years ago. I believe she told Ellen, during the commercial, that she didn't get an offer to work for a year and a half after she did the Puppy episode. This was a time when she had just been nominated for an Academy Award. Ellen mentioned that she just found this out.

I kind of wish she hadn't told Ellen. It was the same as when Oprah was on. Oprah mentioned that she received the most amount of hate mail after doing the show and now Laura talked about not being able to work. You could tell that Ellen felt bad. She probably thought about it all weekend.

Laura spoke very well about what it meant for her to be a part of the show, for Ellen. She told Ellen how much she respected her living her voice. It was very nice.

Over all, it was a great show with Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Laura Dern and Sanjaya. The funniest part was the - I'm not really gay part.

I just love Ellen. Every show is great!

[DegeneresDerossi2007]

Reading your post is heart warming for me. :cool:

Ellen is such a sweet person inside and out.Ellen someone that is just human and not fake.What i love about Ellen is that she just such a wounderfull perosn and What she did was one big step and i'm so ahppy for her.Today show was amazing and that line Ellen I'm really not gay :lol: I was thinking Ellen you go girl.But one thing that warm my heart is seeing Ellen so happy and the fans and love she feels.Today show was one warm feeling.I happy that Ellen is happy on the arms of Portia and her talk show to me is just so funny and she so super that why i will never stop watching my number one funny landy :)

[ellenfannn]

are they saying that laura dern and ellen kissed?
there was kissing in the 5th season between ellen & laurie, but only like 3 times & little pecks.

[one_dream_closer]

I kind of wish she hadn't told Ellen. It was the same as when Oprah was on. Oprah mentioned that she received the most amount of hate mail after doing the show and now Laura talked about not being able to work. You could tell that Ellen felt bad. She probably thought about it all weekend.

Laura spoke very well about what it meant for her to be a part of the show, for Ellen. She told Ellen how much she respected her living her voice. It was very nice.



I dissagree with that comment. I think that is important to mention that that period everything was not shinny and easy as it may seem now. People have very short memory and some of these people that for example sent these hate mails to Oprah nowdays may vote Ellen as best hostes. But Ellen took the descision in 1997 not now. And this makes her descision even more important. And also makes the contribution of some people even more important. Its great for Ellen nowdays that everyone loves her and she deserfves that. but i think that for her personal life is even more important to know that there were some people that supported her even the difficult days. I think this is the best reward.

And also i would like to mention that the last days i found in the site some links for the ellens show season 5. I know that everyone is focusing to the good she did to gay people to liberate them. But i would like to have a way to tell her the good she could (and probably did) do to the ''education'' of streight people. She showed that there are no two parties. gay and streights. Its all about human relationships. I mean apart from the part of the show focusing on Ellen i find more impresive the dialogues with her and her friends. For me it was a shock watching some of this scenes and i really felt bad at some points. because a few years ago i faced a same situation. One of my best friends came out.

You know there are many narrow minded people which will never understand. And whatever Ellen and every Ellen does they will not change their mind. But there are some other people that ists not that they don't want to understand. Its just that they don't know how to do it. And these people are worth to be educated. because usually these are ''friends and family'' And although their intentions might be good they can do most of the harm because these are the peple to who you rely on. If a stranger call you names you don't care. but if a very close friend stops wanted to sit next to you then there is a problem. And is unfair. For both sides because is only a misunderstanding. With that friend of mine it was so strange. I was behaving strange just because of ignorance and she started going out only with lesbians because she thought that only they can support her. And it was bad. Because after all friendship is much more than sexual orientation. And finally she wasn't happy because me was the one she wanted to be friend with and she was the one i wanted to have coffe coffe with and going for shopping. And this is about caracter and not gay issues.But unfortunately is inevitably somethings not to get mixed. I was angry at the begining as ellens friend not because she was gay but because she was hiding things. and after that I was avonding even to discuss with her about my relationships in order not to make her feel uncomfortable. On the other hand she was also angry with me thinking that I was turning her down and then (as she told me one year afterwards) she avoided even hug me in order not to make feel threatened.But this is not frienship...one afraid of the other. Finally the ending of my story is happy because we realised both our mistakes. Maybe not excactly realising that but just realising how much we love each other and there was not a reason pushing our opinions and relationship on the edges. But i feel that when i saw these episodes i really realised what was happening this period. i ll proably get her the dvd as a present and she might realise my part too. And when you get over these silly things everything seems more simple and we now even make jokes all the time. i call her blody lesbian and every time i find a boyfriend she pretends that she is very dissapointed because her plans to recruit me should be postponed one more time!hahah But the truth is that she is the one wishing more than all the others to find me a good guy and I am the one that when an ex tried to convince me that I get bad influences became imediately ex ...And of course his simplyfied expelnation now to common friends was that i was lesbian too. But i refused to ever say yes or no although it is a huge lie. Because I dont want anyone to have the right to make questions that is none of his buissnes to do so. If I said no it would have been like accepting that being lesbina is something that i have to appologize for. And as I dont want anyone to make my friend appologize for anything i will never appolize for anything like that

I find it great. and thats why i find Ellen so adorable. because exactly her point in these series was not to proove how proud she is for being different. But to proove that she wasn't different at all. Not imposing anything just give lessons of acceptance

[soozi]

wow one_dream_closer...that was nearly a whole dollar's worth :lol:

[caaaaa]

only a few more hours till april 30th for the people in california. anyone else still going to email her?

[DegeneresDerossi2007]

I tried Emailing Ellen and than i tryed agina.WAy go Ellen...I Love U :cool:

[caaaaa]

i sent her an email and it ended being waaay longer than i thought. i didnt really know what to say at first, but once i started, lots spilled out. i really hope she gets it, or gets word of it.

[AussieDeRossi]

I found this on the Australian TV Week website and i thought i would share with everyone here. so here it is:

Kissing up
Tuesday, April 24

A decade after their on-screen kiss made headlines, actress Laura Dern has been reunited with Ellen DeGeneres on the comedian's talk show. Forty-two million Americans tuned in to the sitcom Ellen back in 1997 to see what was then a controversial same-sex lip lock and to watch both Ellen the person and Ellen the character come out as a lesbian. Despite the huge numbers for the episode, the show's ratings steadily declined and it was cancelled the following year.

In her appearance on Ellen's show, Laura revealed that the move also hurt her career — she didn't get an acting role for over a year after "that kiss".
"There was certainly a backlash," she said. "I guess we all felt it."

[caaaaa]

i thought there was no kiss?

[Comodyne]

10 years ago... It's been a long time...
I'm happy for what did Ellen! Happy anniversary! :)

[linda76]

Hey everyone!! :D

I started browsing the internet for a place such as this, because the puppy episode was, for me, the lightbulb above my head. :idea: 8O And I thought I'd look around and see if anyone else also realized that they're gay thanks to this episode :lol:

It was so liberating to watch and finally understand myself. :bigups: I can't believe it's already been ten years tonight! 8O

Yay Ellen!!


Linda

[Kristen101]

I found this on the Australian TV Week website and i thought i would share with everyone here. so here it is:

Kissing up
Tuesday, April 24

A decade after their on-screen kiss made headlines, actress Laura Dern has been reunited with Ellen DeGeneres on the comedian's talk show. Forty-two million Americans tuned in to the sitcom Ellen back in 1997 to see what was then a controversial same-sex lip lock and to watch both Ellen the person and Ellen the character come out as a lesbian. Despite the huge numbers for the episode, the show's ratings steadily declined and it was cancelled the following year.

In her appearance on Ellen's show, Laura revealed that the move also hurt her career — she didn't get an acting role for over a year after "that kiss".
"There was certainly a backlash," she said. "I guess we all felt it."

they kissed? i was just watching the puppy episode on the oxygen channel and i didnt see it. did they edit it out?

btw, welcome to the site linda76!! :D good to have ya here, i hope u like it.

[zoel]

Does anyone know how to email ellen from outside the US? I just tried on her site, but can't :cry:

[cernere]

i thought there was no kiss?

Me, too.

From my point of view these are the most intimate scenes:

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3231/ellen10fqd6.th.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ellen10fqd6.jpg) http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3/ellen16hef3.th.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ellen16hef3.jpg) http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1773/ellen21bjx4.th.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ellen21bjx4.jpg) http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7168/ellen21eiz9.th.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ellen21eiz9.jpg) http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5434/ellen21gee1.th.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ellen21gee1.jpg)

Excuse the quality - remember: it happend 10 years ago ... :)

cernere

[Equus]

i've watched it once more, and i've refreshed my mind, completely agree that there was no kissing!!
and i wanna know how i can mail her, i tried it several times but i couldn't!!
:sleepy: :sleepy:

BY THE WAY, I WANT YOU TO COUNT ME IN, 'n Also MY TEXT IS ALREADY READY; BUT just show me how to do it!!! :oops:

[linda76]

Definately no kissing. "Susan" was in a long-term relationship, much to "Ellen"s disappointment.

I live outside the USA and I sent Ellen a message directly through her website, not through email. Good luck!


Linda

[xblondexpinkx]

you can email ellen from her website, just put any state but where it says city put the country you are from.

[charly]

wow, 10 years... I was smaaaal at that time... like 6 years old.
It's weird to think that something that hapenned at a time when I was too young to be conscious of it at all, can 10 years later actually come to have some importance in my life...

[zoel]

you can email ellen from her website, just put any state but where it says city put the country you are from.

Thanks, I think that worked. I just sent it (and said sorry for sending it late :lol: )

[degenerossi]

http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid44550.asp

"An Ellen for the ages"
By Cathy Renna

An Advocate.com exclusive posted May 2, 2007


It is hard to believe that a decade has passed since Ellen DeGeneres and her television character came out. How could you forget the iconic April 14, 1997, cover of Time (“Yep, I’m Gay”) and the extraordinary amount of attention the April 30, 1997, coming-out episode of Ellen garnered? Over 42 million people watched it, 2,000 of whom I had the privilege of being with in Birmingham, Ala., after we rallied to create an event when the local ABC affiliate refused to air the episode. It was the largest gay event in Alabama history. It was a life-changing experience for me as an activist and even more so for the LGBT community in Alabama and beyond.

Remember Jerry Falwell calling her “Ellen Degenerate”? How brilliant. Ellen once commented that this was a favorite schoolyard epithet, which demonstrates Falwell’s maturity—and creativity. I was lucky enough to debate the good Reverend Falwell on national television. Pity there was no YouTube then, because I kicked his butt. “I’m sorry,” I said as he berated me about families not wanting to see lesbians on television, “but Mr. Falwell is missing the point here, and that point is: reality. We are part of your families, and we have families.” Score one for the team. Even the MSNBC host, Jodi Applegate, laughed out loud.

It seemed like a golden age for the community back then. Bill Clinton was president and, despite his faults, was certainly the most supportive person we've ever had in the White House. The religious right was falling all over itself, outing the likes of Tinky Winky and Barney. We had strong lesbian leaders at many of our national organizations. It felt like change was happening fast and that more progress was inevitable. We soon got a difficult wake-up call.

Clinton’s time in office unraveled in scandal, and we saw antigay groups jumping on “reparative therapy.”
I found myself at the center of the media frenzy in Wyoming after Matthew Shepard’s murder in October 1998 and witnessed the nation’s realization that antigay violence is far more common than they imagined. In the late 1990s and early in the new century, media outlets gave platforms to Laura Schlessinger and Michael Savage, and we spent tremendous effort and resources fighting back. The Catholic Church abuse scandal was laid at the feet of gay priests.

As we fast-forward to 2007 we should celebrate progress despite the challenges. Ellen DeGeneres hosted the Oscars. Turn on the television and you will not only see programming like The L Word but entire networks like Logo and Here dedicated to the community. Films like Boys Don’t Cry opened the door for Transamerica and more discussion about gender identity issues than ever before. Brokeback Mountain broke more than records at the box office; it started a conversation about the struggles of LGBT people from our point of view, not from the outside looking in.

Perfect? Of course not. Progress? Definitely. We often lose sight of how much progress we have made and so quickly we've made it. Patience and persistence are both needed in the long run.

Unfortunately, I often see more progress in our culture than in our community. In recent years we have fewer lesbians at the helm of our national organizations. We are fortunate to have the likes of Jennifer Chrisler at Family Pride, Kate Kendell at the National Center for Lesbian Rights, and Mara Keisling at the National Center for Transgender Equality. The top five groups in our community are all run by men, and I cannot help but notice the glaring lack of diversity. I think it does have a real impact, at least symbolic and at most detrimental, on women and people of color in the LGBT community.

On February 18 the community lost a lesbian icon, Barbara Gittings. Barbara was a pioneer, active in the first gay organizations and founder of "The Ladder," the first lesbian publication. She was protesting for gay rights in 1965 (the year I was born) at the White House and was one of a few women involved in groups like the Mattachine Society. She remained active in the community until she passed away last month. Her last act of visibility was to come out in her assisted-living community’s newsletter. She knew that coming out is something we will do all our lives.

There is a wonderful clip of her that I recently saw in a tribute video. She describes her first meeting at the Daughters of Bilitis, a lesbian organization founded by Del Martin and Phyllis Lyon in the 1950s: “I was in a room with 12 other lesbians for the first time, and oh, what a thrill that was.” Signature Barbara, especially that ever-present enthusiasm and positive attitude. I think we all have our “moment” like that. Now, of course, it can happen online as much as offline, but that seminal (or should we call it “ovarian”?) moment is still very important.

We all know the struggle is far from over. It was only in 2003 that sodomy laws were struck down by the Supreme Court. Use of the word faggot as an epithet warrants “rehab” but is still up for debate, and antigay discrimination, bullying, and hate crimes go on unabated.

It is a complex world we live in as LGBT people: lots of progress mixed with a healthy dose of challenges. So many of our issues intersect with our class, gender, gender expression, and race as much as they do with our sexual orientation. What keeps me going? I have the honor of working with a lot of queer young people and LGBT families, and it gives me great hope when I see the care and thought that goes into the activism of the current and coming generations of youth. They get the intersections, they get the overlap, they get the complexity more than my generation does.

Bottom line is this: We all have a lot to thank Ellen for today. Even if you think she doesn’t use her now-enormous platform enough for activism, she is leading by example in living her life openly and honestly. When she walks down the red carpet with Portia de Rossi and says she waits for the day they can get married legally, she is doing far more than most celebrities. I don’t think we would have had Will & Grace without Ellen. Frankly, she has done far more than many of us in the community.

We definitely benefit from having more out celebrities in the world, but the truly transformative moments (read: legal advances for individuals and families) come from the hard daily work of activists and individuals who live their truth and work for change. That is why I hope everyone takes a moment to reflect on 1997 and 2007. We are entering a presidential cycle where a woman is the de facto Democratic nominee, and yet we are still waffling (or is it tiptoeing?) around the basic rights of existence for LGBT people and whether we are “immoral.” It is now or never to make your voice heard. If ACT UP can come back into the fray (Goddess knows, we could use a creative and more confrontational way to address the Ann Coulters and General Paces of the world in 2008), we all can do something. Do it for Barbara Gittings. Do it for Ellen. Do it for all the kids who aren’t out yet. Do it for yourself.

[lostioz]

i wasnt really sure where to post this, and it is a few weeks late but i figured what the hell, its interesting and i found out a lot of stuff i didnt know:

on the GLAAD website they talk about ellen's coming out and also have links to other articles:
http://www.glaad.org/media/newspops_detail.php?id=3999

and what i thought was most interesting was a timeline of gay/lesbian events throughout that 10 years, not necessarliy about ellen. they also have links to watch some of the events too:
http://www.glaad.org/media/resource_kit_detail.php?id=4000


enjoy!

[one_dream_closer]

There is a comment in one of these links that I really don't get it.

As far as i understood is a comment from a gay journalist who I am not sure is she is with or against Ellen's treatment of the current situation. Probably is due to my poor English but I really don't get it
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These days, Ellen doesn’t hide being gay, as we could see from the Oscar red carpet photos that treated DeGeneres and her partner, Portia de Rossi, as any other celebrity couple. Yet she also doesn’t discuss her personal life in any depth on her talk show.

Rosie O’Donnell, another late bloomer on coming out, already makes frequent comments about her partner and children as a co-host of ABC’s “The View,” but her increasingly shrill tone (like advancing 9-11 conspiracy theories) keeps audiences from bonding with her to the depth that would make them feel like they are actually getting to know a gay person.

Ten years ago, Ellen told the world, “Yep, I’m gay.”

Imagine the impact if she followed it now by really allowing America to see that part of her life.
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This means that Ellen in every of her monologues would be obliged to analyze how in their gay world she and Portia wash the dishes in order to proove that both gay streight and way are done with the same tools? Sponge and water?

I mean I don't understand in what sense Ellen should be obliged (?)to discuss her privite life in depth. I dont understand if the comment is that ellen should be more open or if it is the clever movement not to be open.

And I am asking because if the point is that she should be more open I find it a bit dissapointing and unfair. She was obliged to say openly that yes I am gay. Like yes I am the guilty person. And I use the world obliged not in a sense that the faxct on itself that she is gay is bad. But due to the fact that she wasn't in reality given the chance to descide. Actuallly the dilema was not saying or not sayng it was among hiding it and pretend as if she was ashamed and not hiding and allow people to think that they have the right to force her every day to proove that she is not a monster dressed in sandals and having sex all day. And this question comes in combination to other aricles about for example Judy Foster and a magazine which included her in the gay list. So in a way forced either to admit she is assamed of her life or to open her cards. That is really what I dont get. Why if a streight person descides to keep his personal life away from pllen in every of her monologue ublic eye this is considered as discent and acceptable behaviour and if a gay person does not like publicity automaticly means that he has something to hide. So even if by caracter he or she does not like everyone to know the ''news of his /her bedroom'' he is considered as admitting his sin