View Full Version : Have anyone seen this before?
Samantha82
02-18-2008, 10:51 AM
http://video.accesshollywood.com/player/?id=57984
i know there are people who don't like ann...just happen to chance on this...
how i wish it was portia sitting beside ellen. :)
AnastasiaBeavrhausen
02-18-2008, 10:55 AM
Wow I am having a hard time watching this. Anne is crazy. I'm sorry, but Im so glad Ellen is with someone stable and that has such grace and beauty. I just don't see that with anne. Ellen is lucky to have Portia. Lets hope it lasts forever. Oh Lord I hope it does.:o
DegeneresDerossi2007
02-18-2008, 11:14 AM
Wow I am having a hard time watching this. Anne is crazy. I'm sorry, but Im so glad Ellen is with someone stable and that has such grace and beauty. I just don't see that with anne. Ellen is lucky to have Portia. Lets hope it lasts forever. Oh Lord I hope it does.:o
I agree anne is crazzy
I'm very happy that ellen has Portia in her life they make a great looking couple.
virginia88
02-18-2008, 12:05 PM
http://video.accesshollywood.com/player/?id=57984
i know there are people who don't like ann...just happen to chance on this...
how i wish it was portia sitting beside ellen. :)
thanks for the link! :)
Aslan
02-18-2008, 12:55 PM
http://video.accesshollywood.com/player/?id=57984
i know there are people who don't like ann...just happen to chance on this...
how i wish it was portia sitting beside ellen. :)
thx for the link
kinda weird to see ellen with anne
xmaryx
02-18-2008, 01:03 PM
thx for the link
kinda weird to see ellen with anne
i agree, anne and ellen together is so odd. anne was odd fullstop.
but thanks for the vid, i had never seen it before
misskitty
02-18-2008, 01:08 PM
http://video.accesshollywood.com/player/?id=57984
i know there are people who don't like ann...just happen to chance on this...
how i wish it was portia sitting beside ellen. :)
yea thanks for the link
zoeak
02-18-2008, 01:29 PM
Thanks for the link! :)
I remember seeing this quite a while ago... I think Ellen and Anne were very sweet together, irregardless (Wikipedia says it's an illogical word used mainly in North America, and particularly the Boston area - which is where I have my English-speaking roots, so I feel comfortable using it) of what happened later, I adored both of them so much back then. I'm getting all nostalgic, they really were the Great Lesbian Hope at the time... I was so upset when they broke up.
blanksheet
02-18-2008, 03:45 PM
thanks for sharing ;)
Samantha82
02-19-2008, 08:57 AM
Wow I am having a hard time watching this. Anne is crazy. I'm sorry, but Im so glad Ellen is with someone stable and that has such grace and beauty. I just don't see that with anne. Ellen is lucky to have Portia. Lets hope it lasts forever. Oh Lord I hope it does.:o
i agree with you...i've been looking at ellen when taking pic with Ann / Alex...her looks is very different from those ellen took with Portia....her looks just melt you....
Ellen & portia surely is a very happy couple...
We all wana see them last for a long long time...don't we? :p
AnastasiaBeavrhausen
02-19-2008, 09:25 AM
Yes, I noticed her photos with her exes are just not as appealing to look at when you see her and Portia together. I pray it lasts and I think it will. Ellen seems to have a 4 year itch with relationships... well either or. Kinda like her with houses, she seems to like change, or make money lol... but I do think this is the perfect match. She seems much more happier and its evident in the photos we see. Amen to that.
taliootz
02-20-2008, 09:40 AM
I've been thinking that exact same thing, the whole 4 year relationship thingo...im sure tho her and Portia will be together a long time, they love each other too much for anythin to come between them. I always am cautious tho when there is a large gap in age between 2 partners (now dont be attacking me over this peeps, just an opinion) only because you hear so often that the younger one ends up wanting someone closer to their age....in saying that, i dont think that problem exists between Portia and Ellen cos Portia wanted Ellen from the first time she saw her....cos shes Hot Hot Hot mmm hmmm :D
DegeneresDerossi2007
02-20-2008, 10:22 AM
I've been thinking that exact same thing, the whole 4 year relationship thingo...im sure tho her and Portia will be together a long time, they love each other too much for anythin to come between them. I always am cautious tho when there is a large gap in age between 2 partners (now dont be attacking me over this peeps, just an opinion) only because you hear so often that the younger one ends up wanting someone closer to their age....in saying that, i dont think that problem exists between Portia and Ellen cos Portia wanted Ellen from the first time she saw her....cos shes Hot Hot Hot mmm hmmm :D
i agree .Got thAT RIGTH ELLEN HOT , Portia got a hottie
Aslan
02-20-2008, 10:38 AM
just saw it again and ellen said somewhere something like
"hope when they see us in about 30 years they will think oh ok"
30 years! ellen actually believed it was going to last
AnastasiaBeavrhausen
02-20-2008, 10:56 AM
Well my theory is that Anne was pretty good at mind games and since it was the first public relationship with Ellen, I'm sure Anne fed her a bunch of crap... just my opinion. I just see Ellen as naive in that interview. Not stupid, just thinking it was going to work and she had NO idea what Anne was like deep inside. Its just a weird conversation to watch... gives me chills down my spine especially after the way Ellen took her break up by being so depressed for so long... I felt so bad for her. Can you just imagine your partner leaving you for a man? It would be horrible to deal with. Annes crazy, sorry!:uglyconf:
zoeak
02-20-2008, 11:04 AM
just saw it again and ellen said somewhere something like
"hope when they see us in about 30 years they will think oh ok"
30 years! ellen actually believed it was going to last
Of course she did! So did Anne! And a whole lot of others ('cept those 'one time straight, always straight' peeps), I thought they were gonna last, too... *weepies* Man, that was a sucky time, I was just coming out, and suddenly the three most high-profile lesbian relationships just fell apart, two of them because one partner went back to men... way to instill hope in this budding lesbian...
EllenD4ever
02-20-2008, 11:23 AM
That was intresting. Thanks for the video. :) Has anyone ever read Anne's book " Call Me Crazy"?
Leslie
zoeak
02-20-2008, 11:50 AM
That was intresting. Thanks for the video. :) Has anyone ever read Anne's book " Call Me Crazy"?
Leslie
I've read parts of it with the 'Search inside this book' feature on Amazon, but I couldn't quite find it in me to spend money on it. I gotta say, though, that whenever Anne's interviewed, and from what I've read in her book too, she tends to make a whole lot of sense. Like, ridiculously so, with a really great attitude towards stuff in general. And she's always very firmly pointed out that her relationship with Ellen, or the ending thereof, had nothing whatsoever to do sexuality, or the fact that they were both women.
I like this part :D :
"...I mean, it was so perfect - Ellen last night and Harrison today? It's too good to be true!"
There was a brief pause for a cough. "Sorry. What was that about Ellen?"
"Ellen! Oh, my God. I didn't tell you. I met Ellen DeGeneres last night, and I'm in love. I'm so in love! I've never had such great sex! No wonder lesbians are lesbians."
"Anne, take a breath."
"Okay." Breath. "What?"
"Let me get this straight. You slept with Ellen DeGeneres last night?"
"Yeah. She's amazing! She's gonna be my date for the Volcano premiere. Isn't that awesome?"
There was some more coughing, and I began to be concerned for my agent's health.
"Hello? Are you okay? Hello?"
tcsced
02-21-2008, 12:09 AM
Well my theory is that Anne was pretty good at mind games and since it was the first public relationship with Ellen, I'm sure Anne fed her a bunch of crap... just my opinion. I just see Ellen as naive in that interview. Not stupid, just thinking it was going to work and she had NO idea what Anne was like deep inside. Its just a weird conversation to watch... gives me chills down my spine especially after the way Ellen took her break up by being so depressed for so long... I felt so bad for her. Can you just imagine your partner leaving you for a man? It would be horrible to deal with. Annes crazy, sorry!:uglyconf:
You just said exactly what I feel about Anne! Thank you AB!!
chinook
02-21-2008, 02:54 PM
yep anne's crazy...didn't she play twins on the soap Another World, the vickie/marley character, she played both parts right or does she hae a twin? maybe it was a case of the evil twin/good twin when she was with ellen, depended on who was in control that day lol
Sleepless
02-21-2008, 03:06 PM
It never seemed real from Anne, l seen the reality in Ellen, just reading that what Anne said in the interview is enough for me to know that being with Ellen was kind of an experiment!! l am just sad it hurt Ellen so much, it killed me to know she hurt that bad... l think to be honest tho, there was hurt on both sides, the fact is it lasted a good while so its gotta hurt!! They both moved on, l respect Anne's decision to go back to a man, but in my opinion Ellen got the best deal. she got Portia
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehawwwwwwwwwwwwww
tcsced
02-21-2008, 03:06 PM
yep anne's crazy...didn't she play twins on the soap Another World, the vickie/marley character, she played both parts right or does she hae a twin? maybe it was a case of the evil twin/good twin when she was with ellen, depended on who was in control that day lol
I don't know, but if she did play a twin, evil and good, she probably didn't have to do much acting...it should have come natural:p! I'm being mean, I should stop...but it's just how I see her.
linda76
02-21-2008, 03:20 PM
Of course she did! So did Anne! And a whole lot of others ('cept those 'one time straight, always straight' peeps), I thought they were gonna last, too... *weepies* Man, that was a sucky time, I was just coming out, and suddenly the three most high-profile lesbian relationships just fell apart, two of them because one partner went back to men... way to instill hope in this budding lesbian...
Who were the other two??
Thanks for the link, I hadn't seen this interview.
zoeak
02-21-2008, 03:26 PM
Who were the other two??
Thanks for the link, I hadn't seen this interview.
Melissa Etheridge & Julie Cypher (previously married to Lou Diamond Phillips, now married to, uhm, some other man), and k.d. lang & Leisha Hailey.
I have to say, in Anne's defense, that I've always thought she seems real. She may love being the center of attention, but not to where I ever thought she was being overtly manipulative. She seems to change opinions and her heart quickly and easily, but I don't think that makes her feelings any less real when she's feeling them. I've always found her fear-less-ness, even if it was misguided and for attention (not that we'll ever know), inspiring, and I also admire her for not ever treating her relationship with Ellen as a 'past experiment'. So many previously "bisexual" actresses suddenly grow a little older, shut up all about it, and act like it never happened (Angelina, Drew Barrymore, Megan Mullaly...). In the interviews I've seen with Anne since then she gets annoyed when people treat her relationship with Ellen differently, or 'less than', because it was with a woman (remember how mad she got when her mom tried to say her daughter went back to men thanks to her prayers? To the point of releasing a statement saying gender had absolutely nothing to do with it. I think that's pretty cool.).
And IMHO, I think Ellen did a very similar thing to Alex (who has been admirably gracious about the whole thing) that Anne did to her. Sure, we may be fans of Ellen, and quick to forgive, but I do think it's kind of an un-fair double-standard.
EllenD4ever
02-22-2008, 05:49 PM
I've read parts of it with the 'Search inside this book' feature on Amazon, but I couldn't quite find it in me to spend money on it. I gotta say, though, that whenever Anne's interviewed, and from what I've read in her book too, she tends to make a whole lot of sense. Like, ridiculously so, with a really great attitude towards stuff in general. And she's always very firmly pointed out that her relationship with Ellen, or the ending thereof, had nothing whatsoever to do sexuality, or the fact that they were both women.
I like this part :D :
"...I mean, it was so perfect - Ellen last night and Harrison today? It's too good to be true!"
There was a brief pause for a cough. "Sorry. What was that about Ellen?"
"Ellen! Oh, my God. I didn't tell you. I met Ellen DeGeneres last night, and I'm in love. I'm so in love! I've never had such great sex! No wonder lesbians are lesbians."
"Anne, take a breath."
"Okay." Breath. "What?"
"Let me get this straight. You slept with Ellen DeGeneres last night?"
"Yeah. She's amazing! She's gonna be my date for the Volcano premiere. Isn't that awesome?"
There was some more coughing, and I began to be concerned for my agent's health.
"Hello? Are you okay? Hello?"
I am glad you said that. In same ways I understand Anne's pain. I mean being abuse when she was a kid. That sucks. And from where she started and where is she now, that takes a lot of effort. Keep in mind I AM NOT saying what Anne did was fair to Ellen BUT to understand what she did you need to understand her ( Anne). BTW, Anne's book is VERY good.
AnastasiaBeavrhausen
02-22-2008, 06:00 PM
I don't know what to say about Ellen and Alex's relationship. I mean, how do we know it was like what Anne did to Ellen? She didn't leave Alex for another man and I don't know, its confusing. I'm just leaving it at this... its their private business and we have no idea what happened behind closed doors. I just think Anne was crazy being found at those peoples house all drugged up and some of the things she has said... just weird. We all have something painful in our pasts, I understand that, but I don't know, its just private business and Anne made hers public so it is for us to speculate on her book... geez who knows what the hell I'm trying to say... I just don't have sympathy for Anne. Mean? Yes it is mean for me to say... I admit it!:o
xpective
02-22-2008, 06:01 PM
i'm confused about the ellen/anne timeline. I've heard that Anne went to Fresno and that whole thing because she was distraught about the breakup. But if Anne left Ellen because of Coley... why would she run off and get stoned in the desert? Anne said somewhere that Ellen knew about the whole Celestina thing from the first month they were together and was a little freaked out by it... and that she felt repressed by Ellen so it seemed like they had some tension over that. They both say they were dumped. So maybe it was completely mutual... does anyone have any reliable information or is it all rumors and tabloid crap? Or is it a matter of choosing who to believe... deciding ellen's word is more reliable than anne's etc?
zoeak
02-22-2008, 06:20 PM
I think a whole lot of it is just tabloid crap. And I reckon both Ellen and Anne (and Alex) have their own biased view of events, and all of it is really none of our busniess. As far as speculation goes, though, I'm assuming everything wasn't wonderful with Ellen&Anne, nor with Ellen&Alex (and I'd be suspicious if everything was constantly wonderful with Ellen&Portia, too, for that matter). I don't know what Anne writes in her book about the breakup (or if she writes about it at all), but the few interviews I've read I get the feeling they really weren't compatible towards the end, but Anne was probably closer to the edge than Ellen realized at the time. Has it ever been reported anywhere relatively trust-worthy that Anne actually left because of Coley Lafoon, because I got the feeling that while she got to know him over the summer, he wasn't necessarily the source of the break-up. (Of course Ellen spins her break-up with Alex as not being because she met Portia either, so who knows...)
I don't think it's worse to leave your girlfriend for a man than it is for a woman (it feels worse, somehow, but it's really not, being left for someone else is bad enough either way). Anne is bisexual, she left Ellen and then married a man, Ellen is gay, she left Alex for another woman.
They're all human, and none of them is perfect. Ellen was hurt when Anne left, but if you look at Alex's photos and read between the lines of her interviews, it sounds like she was hurt pretty badly, and that it was entirely out of the blue, only she's such a classy lady she doesn't actually say as much or give any details. I love Ellen, and Portia, and Alex, and I'm pretty fond of Anne, too.
EllenD4ever
02-22-2008, 06:28 PM
To be honest w/ everyone I like everyone ( Anne, Ellen, Alex, Portia) We are humans. We make mistakes. Time will heal.
DegeneresDerossi2007
02-22-2008, 06:45 PM
I just love my Ellen and Portia
what happened in the past happned for many resons .Now ellen happy with Portia .
misskitty
02-22-2008, 07:19 PM
I just love my Ellen and Portia
what happened in the past happned for many resons .Now ellen happy with Portia .
i agree with you 100 percent :)
ellenstar
02-25-2008, 04:20 PM
To give Alex her due, she has never divulged anything about her relationship with Ellen or the breakup. I give her credit for that. Unlike Ann who cashed in on her relationship with Ellen. I have the book BUT I was given it, I would not have bought it.
What goes on in their personal lives is no business of ours.
zoeak
02-25-2008, 05:25 PM
Center-piece of my Alex-shrine:
"Also for me, I think what would be very difficult is if I didn't feel good about how I was in that relationship [with Ellen] and that isn't the case. I feel very proud of who I was to her and for her and with her and who I am in many ways, because of her. So, I feel proud about my part of it whereas I can think of relationships I had when I as younger and less responsible that, for years, I would look back on and feel so bad that I did X, Y and Z. That's the hard stuff, to overcome the forgiveness of yourself. Forgiveness of other people, I think, is actually less of a feat."
~SHE Magazine, February 2006
Now that is what I call one classy lady. Alex is really great.
3llen
02-25-2008, 06:00 PM
Center-piece of my Alex-shrine:
"Also for me, I think what would be very difficult is if I didn't feel good about how I was in that relationship [with Ellen] and that isn't the case. I feel very proud of who I was to her and for her and with her and who I am in many ways, because of her. So, I feel proud about my part of it whereas I can think of relationships I had when I as younger and less responsible that, for years, I would look back on and feel so bad that I did X, Y and Z. That's the hard stuff, to overcome the forgiveness of yourself. Forgiveness of other people, I think, is actually less of a feat."
~SHE Magazine, February 2006
Now that is what I call one classy lady. Alex is really great.
yes, she is classy i agree, so is ellen and portia their infact a classy couple:p. ellen had a good relationship with alex and its because of her previous relationships that right now she is happier than ever and more experienced. It is also why she has "found the perfect piece". That could go the same way with alex.
zoeak
02-25-2008, 06:03 PM
yes, she is classy i agree, so is ellen and portia their infact a classy couple:p. ellen had a good relationship with alex and its because of her previous relationships that right now she is happier than ever and more experienced. It is also why she has "found the perfect piece". That could go the same way with alex.
Yeah. Alex has said several times that she's just not ready to be in another relationship yet (but now I haven't heard much from her in the last year, it was in the interviews around her L Word appearance, and Designing Blind). But hopefully she too will find her 'perfect piece' eventually. (andOhhowIwishthatwasme...:rolleyes: )
tcsced
02-25-2008, 11:11 PM
Center-piece of my Alex-shrine:
"Also for me, I think what would be very difficult is if I didn't feel good about how I was in that relationship [with Ellen] and that isn't the case. I feel very proud of who I was to her and for her and with her and who I am in many ways, because of her. So, I feel proud about my part of it whereas I can think of relationships I had when I as younger and less responsible that, for years, I would look back on and feel so bad that I did X, Y and Z. That's the hard stuff, to overcome the forgiveness of yourself. Forgiveness of other people, I think, is actually less of a feat."
~SHE Magazine, February 2006
Now that is what I call one classy lady. Alex is really great.
That woman is so classy! I hope she finds her happiness in someone else. I looooooove Ellen and Portia, but Alex was great too...I didn't get into Ellen until right before she and Alex broke up so I didn't know that much about Alex so I had to kinda learn a little bit about her after the fact...and all I can say is, that is one classy statement right there! And the fact that she is not bitter and still wants to maybe be friends with Ellen is nice...don't know if that will ever happen...I imagine it would be awkward, but it's still just nice to know she feels that way and isn't holding a grudge. I like her!
LadyDeath91
02-26-2008, 01:24 AM
Center-piece of my Alex-shrine:
"Also for me, I think what would be very difficult is if I didn't feel good about how I was in that relationship [with Ellen] and that isn't the case. I feel very proud of who I was to her and for her and with her and who I am in many ways, because of her. So, I feel proud about my part of it whereas I can think of relationships I had when I as younger and less responsible that, for years, I would look back on and feel so bad that I did X, Y and Z. That's the hard stuff, to overcome the forgiveness of yourself. Forgiveness of other people, I think, is actually less of a feat."
~SHE Magazine, February 2006
Now that is what I call one classy lady. Alex is really great.
Man, real respect to Alex.
She is definetly one classy lady. I hope too that she will finds her happyness in someone else, i really do like Alex ;)
ellen_dgen
02-26-2008, 02:13 AM
i completely agree. alex is one classy lady. but i think and i tend to believe ellen when she says she might find it difficult to find a better fit than portia. at least from what i've read, she and alex broke up just a month after they got together and this was confirmed by ellen's rep. I think alex broke up with her again after a few months of them living together. and they, as rumour has it, went back together after ellen went on a date with patricia velasquez (yes, that martha!) and that when ellen realized that she really loves alex and so she went to see alex and gave her a ring (and the rest, is history). to me, these break-ups only show that all was not rosy between alex and ellen. well, we've heard of the same stories about ellen and portia but ellen's rep is very quick in denying the break-up rumour between them, unlike with alex which the rep confirmed. some speculated that one of the things ellen and alex is not compatible about is ellen's liking of wine (which i'm quite sure she doesn't abuse). i read that alex is a teetotaler being once a member of AA and she avoids liquors.
although really, what do i know? i'm just giving my thoughts. lol!:D:p
zoeak
02-26-2008, 05:02 AM
Yeah, I don't doubt for a second that Ellen & Alex weren't perfect together, or that there was friction, I've heard the same stuff about the beginnings of their relationship... I just happen to really *really* adore Alex, and I loved the two of them together. :D
I have a couple of friends who got together really quickly out of the blue couple of years ago, had moved in together like, the next day (acting very lesbianish), and now they're married and own a house together, and while I like both of them, I'm still looking at them together going 'man, when are you two gonna wake up and actually See each other?'. I don't doubt that they're in love, but the people I know them to be when they're with me (neither of them being not in love with me) are so different than who they are together. In my experience those are the couples that wake up one day, look at each other for who they really are, and go their separate ways.
I have another couple of friends, who've been together for many years, and when I see them together they're still themselves, only with an added layer of 'in love', and they're wonderfully compatible, and it appears they're gonna be together for many years to come.
*the following is based on public perception of their respective public persona entirely and bears no resemblance to whoever these people are in private! because I don't know them in private! And it's not even relevant because Ellen & Alex broke up, while Ellen & Portia are still together... it's just something I can't seen to not think about.*
That's sort of how I perceive the difference between Ellen/Portia and Ellen/Alex. From interviews and pictures before, during, and after Ellen/Alex I could still recognize them, but with Ellen/Portia it's like they're so in love it makes me wonder if they actually See each other, I don't really recognize them from who they were before...
Argh. I really need to get over this. :cool:
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